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In less than a month, Saturn will leave the sign of Libra, his place of exaltation, and move into Scorpio. A new era! But wait. What many don’t know is that outer planets like Saturn often leave their biggest message as they exit a sign or house. With that in mind, let’s take a moment to reflect on what this transit has meant. What has the wise taskmaster gifted you these last two and a half years? What synchronicities?
I found this old post I wrote when Saturn was about to enter Libra. It’s a good starting point for reflection.
Notes on Saturn into Libra:
Saturn makes things real. He is the scaffolding on which we hang ‘existence’, the bones and joints that hold up our physicality, the beams that keep the roof over our heads. He represents paradigms currently in place, the ‘consensus reality’ of a given culture or group. As lord of boundaries, ambitions, and responsibilities, his entrance into the sign of Libra means some cultural beliefs will be examined, and all goals, relationships, aspirations and possibilities will be assessed, tested for authenticity and restructured where necessary.
Remember: Saturn is exalted in Libra and that tells us something about our relationships–that a creatively expressed Saturn energy can bring out their BEST!
To experience this, Saturn needs to be understood. Think of him as the task master, symbolizing a part of us bent on overcoming fears and becoming everything we can possibly be. To do so, he may push and prod us towards individuality, encouraging choices that authentically reflect who we are NOW. (remember, it is US that is doing the pushing and prodding. Saturn is symbol or this inner dynamic!) As individuals, Saturn teaches us to be responsible for our own feelings and actions, allowing others to take responsibility for theirs. What he offers in return for this realization is a distinct and powerful sense of self, integration and grace—and the tangible manifestation of our desires, particularly in the area of life being transited. (House)
If this area is an INTERCEPTED sign, even more opportunity to identify our needs, wants, desires and authentic expression comes to light.
Thoughts? Insights? Saturn for me has been in the 2nd house and my relationship to my sense of worth, value and $$$ has changed dramatically, especially in the last few months! It has been an amazing process as I start to reflect and then look forward to my 2nd Saturn return to my 3rd house!
Comments welcome as always!
Always love your positive spin, Kim. Thanks!
Thank you
I am going to try this again, Kim!
Saturn is in my 9th House? Beliefs and Travel ahoy!
Annette, your natal Saturn is in your 9th house, in Sagittarius. That’s where Saturn was when you were born. But by transit, to see where he is there, we look for the last few degrees of Libra and the early degrees of Scorpio. That’s in your 7th house and crossing your North Lunar Node.
I suspect someone will, or just has, come into your life with the aim to form a partnership, business or pleasure. Eyes open!
Saturn has been in my 12th and is on my ASC, ready to cross into the first. How does one make matters of the 12th house concrete? How does one face the hidden matters of the 12th and work to bring them to light, or heal them? Perhaps this sojourn has been more in my nature than some, because of the rest of the chart. However, with natal Saturn in Scorpio, I think I may breathe a little easier as he crosses into swampy terrain rather than the stuff of airy dreams!
I think so too! Even though we are both Gems, and you’d assume the trine by sign would be super supportive, I am so looking forward to the transition. Feels like homecoming!
My 2nd ends mid Libra, Saturn now in my 3rd and a way to go on that yet.
There was certainly a lot of determination of ‘value’ stuff going on 2009 – 2011.
It’s difficult for me to think about that clearly right now though as Saturn now preparing to induce another reality check by squaring my Saturn, before crossing into Scorp to square my Ascendant, Mars and then be conjunct Uranus.
I’m sure there’ll be all sorts of messages in there, it may take a while to make sense of it all.
I’m definitely conscious of communication though – way less willing to accept people’s rubbish communication practices. I’ve mostly tried to be diplomatic about it all till now, I suspect I may get a bit more forceful with any that remain unresolved soon. I guess I should also be turning to lens on myself.
You’re right about that shift form diplomat to a deeper personal power. Saturn in Scorp in 3rd also sounds like powerful commitments in the realm of the written and spoken word.
The Saturn square at this point (after 30 Saturn just coincides with better and better news) will probably be very sportive. Do a clean sweep of third house things, old correspondence, writing tasks, deadlines, relationship with siblings and neighbors, cousins, vehicle or bike or any form of transport under your care . . . do a ‘declutter’ of all things third in prep for the transition!
Thanks Kim – yes Saturn square really is the thesis deadline this time!
Thanks Kim! I’ve learned so much from your blog.
I have also had Saturn transiting my 2nd. As a Cap sun, I guess I’m supposed to “handle” Saturn well. It’s in my natal 5th/Pisces. Whew – I say enough already! I’ve started looking back through my journals lately to see what was going on in late 2009. It makes me smile (now) because I have really come so far in learning about values, money and self-esteem. I feel like a snake finally shedding its skin (long overdue).
I’m looking forward to seeing what this Pluto sq Uranus and all the interesting planets lining up in Scorpio will bring. I sense it’s gonna be a wild ride…;)
Hi Robin, It is so instructional to look back at the old journals to see how much as changed, how we have evolved. It puts the transits and their coinciding events, inner and outer, into perspective. Being a Capricorn means Saturn is your ‘solar ruler’ and has added significant. Glad the snake has shed its skin!
I think a wild ride too!
Namaste
here’s mine for when you have the time, kim… and thank you for all of the help you’ve given
… sincerely http://astro.cafeastrology.com/cgi-bin/astro/natal?member=&recalc=&name=jennifer+lise+mary+chartrand&sex=f&d1day=12&d1month=10&d1year=1969&d1hour=11&d1min=15&citylist=Brampton%2C+Ont+%289%29%2C+Canada&lang=en
Thanks for posting, Jennifer.
It looks like Saturn will be leaving your 11th house in the next year so there is a feeling of completion around some goals and plans for the future. They way you connect to the collective, the one-to-many relationships of groups and organizations and like minded others has grown. You may have been, or are in the process of, pruning out all the connections that no longer reflect who you really are. Saturn wants to be ‘real’ so any friends that feel ‘fake’ or goals that no longer light you up have got to go.
It makes way for something new, and more meaningful to you:)
Make sense?
Hi Kim, I’m always a bit confused about house systems and how you know which one to use..with Koch, which is the first one I ever had drawn up, Saturn left my 5th a while ago but in Placidus ( I think – looking at astrodiendst’s default house system) it’s still in the fifth. But either way, it is inconjunct to my Chiron and natal Saturn at 26 and 29degrees Pisces AND just about to hop onto my natal Vertex at 28 degrees. Golly! Wonder what to expect…something karmic, powerful and stablizing re relationship I hope! It has definitely helped to structure and concretize creative work, how about the same for that 5th house romance…? x
Oh my! I just realized the Uranus/Pluto square is exact on the same day Saturn hits the natal vertex. I am officially strapping myself in…the May/December 2011 was crap for me (Dad’s death followed by sibling/mother severed relationships. But forewarned etc, will attempt a positive perspective on all that arises.
The vertex is a very interesting point. I relate it to the mythology of Vertumnus here in this article. http://www.falconastrology.com/vertex.htm Think radical change for the better!
There are some 30 odd house systems out there with various astrologers all swearing by this one or the other. I think that tells us something. It’s not an exact ‘door’ or cutoff point. Think in terms of orbs. Also realize that many birth times are off by quite a few minutes. (and the degree on the Asc and cusps changes once every 4 minutes! So . . . we need to give ourselves orbs of say 5 – 10 degrees, no matter what the house system. The question to ask is does it FEEL like Saturn has moved on to the next house yet or no?
I love transits to the vertex! (again that point is dependent on an exact birth time. It moves at the same rate as the Asc.) So give yourself an org of 5 degrees either way. Turning points!
Cheers Kim, that makes sense re the houses..have looke again at some very notable dates and notice the faster planets (mars/moon) transiting right there on what I had calculated as my anti-vertex each time, so will assume that is the correct degree. Also looked up the last Saturn contact with vertex when i was 16/17- extremely positive turning points, and all to do with music (5th house vertex).Have recalimed the positive outlook – looking forward to it now! x
While I know that Saturn is exalted in Libra, it has been so frustrating that it feels to me like nothing is moving forward nearly fast enough. Delays and more delays hehe! It has been in my 5th or 6th (depending on house system, and both signatures fit, especially the 6th). While it might feel quite uncomfortable, part of me is just waiting for Saturn to get to Scorpio if it provides relief from the stagnancy, even if it is a bit painful
hi kim,
my state at the end of this saturn-transit is total confusion in terms of relationships, values, self-esteem, everything it seems… maybe its because of other transits which i have at the same time.
since saturn moved into libra my interest in astrology started.
my transits this last 2,5 years:
saturn squared my cancer-planets: venus at 0 (its 29.38 but i feel it as cancer-venus), mars 7, mc 9, jupi 16, sun 28.
and saturn conjunct ac at 7 libra.
also saturn opposite saturn (natal on 29.36)
all the uranus-pluto squares-energy destabilized my base with pluto on ic.
maybe it has to do with my moon-pluto-uranus-conjunction in 12th house.
it looks all that wired and complex and tangled and like i will never in my life understand whats going on and how to go ahead.
no, i dont feel as if i understood not even one lesson saturn wants me to learn. it s all to much.
before this fucking transits started, i believed in things like LOA. but life showed me that there is nothing to believe in…
and the more i read in astro, the more all seems to be unpredictable, unsure and leaves me unable insteed of enabled.
i wrote your article about merkur. mine is at 10 leo, 10th house (my cancer-house with fucking lots of planets.) merkur is retro and has just the aspect to my ac and if it counts to neptun in 2nd house at 20 scorpio which is conjunct my south node.
i have the feeling that my whole life was wrong – thats the only explanation for my situation right now.
i dont want to moan, i know a lot of people live in difficult circumstances. just want to tell a few facts.
lost my partner, all friends, all other social contacts (my hairdresser stayed…), lost my home (lived there for 14 years), lost the new found home too. lost my health (deep suicidial depression – not possible follow my business as a therapist and coach), so, lost my business. tried to build up a new one in tradeing. it worked – even with depression (i tried to work harder as mention with the saturn-square-sun-transit)
but my business-partner turned out te be a cheater – went away with the money i took from the bank by credit and took with him my clients…
the good: kept my children and my mom.
any idea for me kim?
namaste, angelika, austria
i see i didnt told concret: my natal saturn is at 39.36 pisces. conjunct chiron 37 pisces.
Hi Kim.. I had to refer back to your page about Saturn leaving Libra. It is so great to read you directions on these changes and how it relates to me. I am starting to understand. For me, Libra is in my 12th and 1st house so I look at what I have been experiencing since 2009 as a complete transformation on “outlook on life” from the 12th house and all of the traits in the 1st. Now realizing what has been going on I am so pleased because my main focus since 2009 was/is “peace of mind” (1st house). I keep saying that when I feel stressed or upset about something. It has been intense emotionally with work and romance so I hope Saturn in Scorpio brings some smoother pastures to get me balanced again. (I have posted here before sharing my up and down emotions). Here is my chart if you are able to touch on anything that is not in sync with my understanding of what has been going on.
Thank you Kim!! xo!
http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?cid=4b6fileOKoueY-u1168814104_445034152;gm=a1;nhor=427706;nho2=868275;btyp=2;mth=gw;sday=31;smon=10;syr=2009;hsy=-1;zod=;orbp=;rs=0;ast=&lang=e&stx2=s=outs=24
Sorry this is the current chart. I was checking out 2009 and posted that one!
http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?cid=4b6fileOKoueY-u1168814104_445034152;gm=a1;nhor=427706;nho2=868275;btyp=2;mth=gw;sday=23;smon=9;syr=2012;hsy=-1;zod=;orbp=;rs=0;ast=&lang=e&stx2=s=outs=24
Hi Alison! The trine to your natal Jupiter when Saturn goes into Scorp will be so affirming! A beautiful completion of ‘the work’ over the last few years and the opening of new things to come, esp how you express in the world! Looks very creative!
Excellent.. Thanks Kim! That is all I needed to know! I am looking forward to what is coming up and I am ready! xo!!
Kim,
How will this affect me who is Libra asc. / Scorpio rising??? I am feeling a big scared.
It was a difficult and very precious Saturn for me.(10/10/1974). My natal saturn is in Cancer(1st house and 2nd house).